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oppose 80% · formal logicmoderated to 100%; argued down by 20%
by anonymous on 2005-03-26 22:50:21if (God did exist) then { - he'll break at once this website - he'll stop all the non believers from breathing - he'll help increase the percentage on this argument to 99% } None of the previous arguments are true, so it follows God doesn't exists. -
oppose 100% · Re: formal logicmoderated to 100%; argued down by 0%
by anonymous on 2005-09-28 00:43:29This logic is flawed. Building on your premise, if God is an omniscient being (which the Bible leads us to believe), he could have easily foreseen and thus prevented this site from ever existing, preempting any need to break this website and/or stop all nonbelievers from breathing. Because this site exists negates your logic. Besides, what rational basis is there to believe that God would WANT 99% of people to believe he exists and/or would be motivated to intervene to tip the scales? -
(comment) 0% · Re: formal logicmoderated to 0%
by anonymous on 2007-12-29 09:50:51amen. according to the bible god knows our precise futures (how else could jesus have told peter that he would deny him 3 times before the rooster crowed?) so i say: how can you create something, knowing its outcome, and then claim the outcome is not your intention? in other words: how can we POSSIBLY be judged by God when anything/everything we do is EXACTLY what he knew would happen before he even created anything? How can we be judged by him when we die as if he didnt know what would happen? Gods rules of time/perception are ruled out as an excuse in this case because no matter how he does perceive time. it STILL amounts to him being able to tell us our EXACT future to our faces (as in the peter example) even when we haven't yet exercised the free will that Christians rave so much about. how is there anything just in that? how can our existence matter to anything if God knew the outcome from the beginning? the entire basis for Christianity is a joke in the first place. And man, how far its been taken BLOWS MY MIND
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title: 'Re: formal logic'
text: 'amen. according to the bible god knows our precise futures (how else could jesus have told peter that he would deny him 3 times before the rooster crowed?) so i say: how can you create something, knowing its outcome, and then claim the outcome is not your intention? in other words: how can we POSSIBLY be judged by God when anything/everything we do is EXACTLY what he knew would happen before he even created anything? How can we be judged by him when we die as if he didnt know what would happen? Gods rules of time/perception are ruled out as an excuse in this case because no matter how he does perceive time. it STILL amounts to him being able to tell us our EXACT future to our faces (as in the peter example) even when we haven't yet exercised the free will that Christians rave so much about. how is there anything just in that? how can our existence matter to anything if God knew the outcome from the beginning? the entire basis for Christianity is a joke in the first place. And man, how far its been taken BLOWS MY MIND'
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